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Lab Coat Optional™ podcast
On Lab Coat Optional™, host Pete Zrioka interviews ASU researchers at the forefront of their fields — minus the jargon. Leave your lab coat at the door and tune in to learn about the latest research from ASU.

Lab Coat Optional is the show where research is made relatable. Each episode, we dive into the research, the people behind it and why it matters. Tune in for smart, accessible conversations on the latest research from Arizona State University, released every other Wednesday.
We are a production of Knowledge Enterprise at ASU. Learn more at research.asu.edu.
What does sound feel like? Music theorist Lindsey Reymore explores timbre — the “color” of sound — and why the way we describe music might be more shared than subjective.
Further reading and listening:
- Learn more about the ACTOR project at McGill University and the Timbre and Orchestration Resource
- Listen to Peter and the Wolf!
Learn more about:
The School of Music, Dance and Theatre at the Herberger Institute for Design and the Arts at Arizona State University.
The Institute for Social Science Research at ASU, which is funding Lindsey’s upcoming timbre study in different languages.
Special thanks to the Ocotillo Winds from ASU’s School of Music, Dance and Theatre.
Bass clarinet: Assistant Professor Jeff Anderle
Flute: Professor Elizabeth Buck
Alto saxophone: Professor Christopher Creviston
Oboe: Assistant Professor Jonathan Davis
Clarinet: Associate Professor Josh Gardner
Bassoon: Professor Albie Micklich
Lab Coat Optional is a production of the Strategic Marketing and Communications team at Arizona State University’s Knowledge Enterprise. Learn more about research and discovery at ASU on Instagram, LinkedIn and Bluesky or visit us at research.asu.edu.
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Get in touch with us at [email protected].
Episode credits
Executive produced by Kate Howells
Produced by Alexander Chapin and Pete Zrioka
Hosted and reported by Pete Zrioka
Shot by Alexander Chapin and Christian Van Bebber
Edited by Alexander Chapin and Patrick Cheung
Music composed by Patrick Cheung
Motion graphics by Andy Ramos
Art by Andy Keena
Editorial support from Diane Boudreau
Social media management by Lauren Hebing and Kyler Litson


Lab Coat Optional is the show where research is made relatable. Each episode, we dive into the research, the people behind it and why it matters. Tune in for smart, accessible conversations on the latest research from Arizona State University, released every other Wednesday.
We are a production of Knowledge Enterprise at ASU. Learn more at research.asu.edu.
We trade data for convenience every day. But at what cost? Rakibul Hasan breaks down how everyday tech became a surveillance network that determines what we see, what we pay — and maybe even what we think.
Resources
- Try Brave or Duck Duck Go as a browser
- Try the Start Page search engine
Further reading and watching:
- Privacy Is Power by Carissa Veliz
- LOST GENERATION
- The Social Dilemma from Netflix
Learn more about the School of Computing and Augmented Intelligence in the Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering at Arizona State University.
Lab Coat Optional is a production of the Strategic Marketing and Communications team at Arizona State University’s Knowledge Enterprise. Learn more about research and discovery at ASU on Instagram, LinkedIn and Bluesky or visit us at research.asu.edu.
Love the show? Give us a five star review on the podcast app of your choice!
Get in touch with us at [email protected].
Special thanks to our No. 1 fan Meg Hebing for her cameo
Episode credits
Executive produced by Kate Howells
Produced by Alexander Chapin and Pete Zrioka
Hosted and reported by Pete Zrioka
Shot by Alexander Chapin
Edited by Alexander Chapin and Quinton Kendall
Original music from Patrick Cheung
Motion graphics by Andy Ramos
Art by Andy Keena and Sophia Franz
Editorial support from Diane Boudreau
Social media management by Lauren Hebing and Kyler Litson
Disclosure:
Opinions expressed on this show reflect the views of the individuals only, not the policy or opinion of Arizona State University.


Lab Coat Optional is the show where research is made relatable. Each episode, we dive into the research, the people behind it and why it matters. Tune in for smart, accessible conversations on the latest research from Arizona State University, released every other Wednesday.
We are a production of Knowledge Enterprise at ASU. Learn more at research.asu.edu.
Astrophysicist Skylar Grayson explains how she uses supercomputer simulations to study black holes, how scientists can piece together a picture of phenomena billions of light years away and why communicating science clearly matters just as much as discovering it.
Find Skylar on:
Further reading:
Learn more about the School of Earth and Space Exploration at Arizona State University.
Lab Coat Optional is a production of the Strategic Marketing and Communications team at Arizona State University’s Knowledge Enterprise. Learn more about research and discovery at ASU on Instagram, LinkedIn and Bluesky or visit us at research.asu.edu.
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Special thanks to Kaden Ryback for suggesting this episode!
Do you have an idea for an episode, or just want to torture the host with facts about dark matter? Get in touch at [email protected]!
Episode credits
Executive produced by Kate Howells
Produced by Alexander Chapin and Pete Zrioka
Hosted and reported by Pete Zrioka
Shot by Alexander Chapin
Edited by Alexander Chapin and Quinton Kendall
Original music from Patrick Cheung
Motion graphics by Andy Ramos
Art by Andy Keena and Sophia Franz
Editorial support from Diane Boudreau
Social media management by Lauren Hebing and Kyler Litson

Knowledge Enterprise in the news
Perryville women’s prison survey changed assumptions about inmates’ education level
Roe-Sepowitz, ASU professor and human trafficking researcher, said that many women had an 11th grade education level, much higher than the assumed 5th grade level.
Read on kjzz.orgASU launches nation’s first Center for Heat Preparedness with $2.6 million federal investment
The center’s mission is to help communities better prepare for extreme heat before it becomes deadly.
Read on 12news.comA connection to nature fuels well‑being, ASU researchers find
Immersing oneself in outdoor natural spaces seems to lift depression and influence brain activity patterns, especially in children.
Read on phoenixnewtimes.comASU builds new tools to help Veterans combat loneliness, social isolation
The research team aims to create an AI-powered digital assistant device, accessing important information like language, libraries and medical records.
Read on azpbs.orgHow Arizona’s water agency keeps tabs on rural groundwater levels
The monitoring, done every five years in areas with critical groundwater conditions, is known as a “basin sweep” and it allows the agency water experts to draw out water trends.
Read on azcentral.comArizona’s in for another very hot summer. But ‘super El Niño’ could bring heavy monsoon storms
Randy Cerveny, professor of geographical sciences at ASU and extreme weather expert, joined The Show to talk more about El Nino.
Read on kjzz.orgMedia inquiries
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