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Lab Coat Optional™ podcast
On Lab Coat Optional™, host Pete Zrioka interviews ASU researchers at the forefront of their fields — minus the jargon. Leave your lab coat at the door and tune in to learn about the latest research from ASU.

Lab Coat Optional is the show where research is made relatable. Each episode, we dive into the research, the people behind it and why it matters. Tune in for smart, accessible conversations on the latest research from Arizona State University, released every other Wednesday.
We are a production of Knowledge Enterprise at ASU. Learn more at research.asu.edu.
As a summer treat, we are sharing an episode of Ten Across Conversations, another podcast from Arizona State University.
This episode features two ASU researchers on the frontlines of a growing problem: extreme heat.
Find more Ten Across Conversations on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.


Lab Coat Optional is the show where research is made relatable. Each episode, we dive into the research, the people behind it and why it matters. Tune in for smart, accessible conversations on the latest research from Arizona State University, released every other Wednesday.
We are a production of Knowledge Enterprise at ASU. Learn more at research.asu.edu.
ASU computer scientist Hannah Kerner explains how the combination of machine learning and satellite data help map farms, monitor disasters and understand climate impacts — turning decades of Earth observation data into tools.
Further listening and reading:
- Listen to Hannah on the Satellite and Deep Learning podcast with Robin Cole
- Check out Applied Geospatial by Christopher Ren
- Read Empire of AI by Karen Hao
Learn more about the School of Computing and Augmented Intelligence in the Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering at Arizona State University.
Lab Coat Optional is a production of the Strategic Marketing and Communications team at Arizona State University’s Knowledge Enterprise. Learn more about research and discovery at ASU on Instagram, LinkedIn and Bluesky or visit us at research.asu.edu.
Love the show? Give us a five star review on the podcast app of your choice!
Get in touch with us at [email protected].
Episode credits
Hosted and reported by Pete Zrioka
Executive produced by Kate Howells
Produced by Alexander Chapin and Pete Zrioka
Shot by Alexander Chapin
Edited by Alexander Chapin and Quinton Kendall
Original music from Patrick Cheung
Motion graphics by Andy Ramos
Art by Andy Keena
Editorial support from Diane Boudreau
Reporting from Kelly DeVos and Gary Werner was foundational to this episode
Social media management by Lauren Hebing and Kyler Litson


Lab Coat Optional is the show where research is made relatable. Each episode, we dive into the research, the people behind it and why it matters. Tune in for smart, accessible conversations on the latest research from Arizona State University, released every other Wednesday.
We are a production of Knowledge Enterprise at ASU. Learn more at research.asu.edu.
What does sound feel like? Music theorist Lindsey Reymore explores timbre — the “color” of sound — and why the way we describe music might be more shared than subjective.
Further reading and listening:
- Learn more about the ACTOR project at McGill University and the Timbre and Orchestration Resource
- Listen to Peter and the Wolf!
Learn more about:
The School of Music, Dance and Theatre at the Herberger Institute for Design and the Arts at Arizona State University.
The Institute for Social Science Research at ASU, which is funding Lindsey’s upcoming timbre study in different languages.
Special thanks to the Ocotillo Winds from ASU’s School of Music, Dance and Theatre.
Bass clarinet: Assistant Professor Jeff Anderle
Flute: Professor Elizabeth Buck
Alto saxophone: Professor Christopher Creviston
Oboe: Assistant Professor Jonathan Davis
Clarinet: Associate Professor Josh Gardner
Bassoon: Professor Albie Micklich
Lab Coat Optional is a production of the Strategic Marketing and Communications team at Arizona State University’s Knowledge Enterprise. Learn more about research and discovery at ASU on Instagram, LinkedIn and Bluesky or visit us at research.asu.edu.
Love the show? Give us a five star review on the podcast app of your choice!
Get in touch with us at [email protected].
Episode credits
Executive produced by Kate Howells
Produced by Alexander Chapin and Pete Zrioka
Hosted and reported by Pete Zrioka
Shot by Alexander Chapin and Christian Van Bebber
Edited by Alexander Chapin and Patrick Cheung
Music composed by Patrick Cheung
Motion graphics by Andy Ramos
Art by Andy Keena
Editorial support from Diane Boudreau
Social media management by Lauren Hebing and Kyler Litson

Knowledge Enterprise in the news
Local designer, ASU graduate designs dress for Tony Awards
Diné designer and ASU grad Deven Tso designed a dress for Arizona’s only Tony Award voter, ASU Gammage Executive Director Colleen Jennings-Roggensack.
Read on peoriatimes.comArizona students design app that calculates least-sweaty walking route
Cool Routes helps users find the coolest paths and reduce exposure to dangerous heat.
Read on popsci.comFemTech AZ aims to bridge health research gap between men and women
Dr. Mitzi Krockover, co-founder of FemtechAZ and Professor of Practice at ASU’s College of Health Solutions, joined “Arizona Horizon” to discuss closing the research gap.
Read on azpbs.orgEmotional ties to phonetic sounds start in early childhood, ASU study shows
Both groups showed positive associations with “ee” sounds like in “gleam” and negative associations with “uh” sounds like in “glum.”
Read on kjzz.orgScientists warn Phoenix’s dry heat can be just as deadly as humidity
New ASU research suggests Phoenix’s dry heat may be more dangerous than traditional heat models show.
Read on azfamily.comCan an army of babies and dogs rescue psychology from its reproducibility crisis?
Psychology researchers are teaming up to run a host of huge projects aiming to bring rigour to cognitive science, including ASU developmental psychologist Kelsey Luca.
Read on nature.comMedia inquiries
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